This page (like others in the Useless Trivia space) exist to provide analysis and review of computer security in films. Reviews of usernames and passwords used in these films will be mentioned as they can be found and identified.

23 - Nichts ist so wie es Scheint (23 - Nothing is as it Seems): Thriller, Suspense, Conspiracy, Coincidence

(http://www.hagbard-celine.de/ is a kind of shrine and dedication to Karl Koch A.K.A. Celine Hagbard. Plenty of docs are there and links to many page, but most are written in German.)

(Summary of 23 with a link to Alterations to the real story.)

(English Subtitles? We have English subtitles for this film and have made them available for download. Feedback to make them better is welcome! English Subtitles Release version 1.0 Came out Jan 21, 2004 and been revised several times with spelling fixes, modified content, grammatical fixes and more. You can download subtitles for this movie to have them play with at least two different rips of this video. Information on getting the latest versions of subtitles, how to make suggested changes to the subtitles, and credit to people who have chosen to accept credit for their work is available near the end of this page by following this link.)

People who have read a book by Clifford Stoll called "The Cookoo's Egg" know about the $0.75 discrepancy on a phone bill at Lawrence Berkeley Labs that pushed Clifford to track down the cause, an unauthorized used of phone system and computer system resources. (Also see the PBS, NOVA presentation called The KGB, My Computer and Me available on VHS from order through PBS (VHS, U.S. NTSC format) or at your local library also by Clifford Stoll as a video of the same story.) However, you may not have heard a story about the hackers on the other side of the Atlantic in Hanover, Germany. As it turns out, this film (23 - Nothing is as it Seems) is a story about this other side. (Citation: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,14693,00.html.) Another article (http://www.byte.com/art/9509/sec7/art25.htm) says the intruder on the LBL systems was actually Markus Hess.

This is a difficult film to acquire with English Subtitle (or any subtitles for that matter.) I bought a copy from Europe (which had no subtitles) and a DVD-R from http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/. The copy from http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/ Was in DVD-R format and has subtitles as part of the actual video and I did not like how they chose to translate many parts; technical translations and genuine references to people and groups are lacking and some aspects of the story are lost in it. Also, since they are part of the video, you can't turn them off. Also, the video quality is not as good as the Region-2 DVD. However, it is a DVD-R and can be played on many modern DVD players that can play DVD-R. For information on the two copies of this movie that I own, scroll to the bottom of this page to read more.

This is an example of a Hollywood movie that actually has the technical aspects of computer systems fairly accurately displayed. <Sarcasm>Ohhhhhhh. wait. This was not a Hollywood film this is a film from Germany.</sarcasm> (Heh.)

This film includes references to Atari computers, Commodore 64, and other systems, while we also see some IBM and IBM clone systems, a few portable computers (briefcase-sized systems with amber monochrome LCD) and even a PDP-11 system. They even address the different power needs of a PDP-11 system and make references to a need to condition the air and manage the temperature. Taken as a whole, the movie was much more technologically accurate with the use of computers than most other movies. In fact, the representation of "what technology can do" is pretty good for "movies about hackers." (Using the common movie definition of hackers.) They also do a rather good job of not showing things being done by computers that can't be done by computers. Though it is not perfect, it is a much better representation of computer technology than most "hacker" movies I have seen.

To its detriment, I think the creators of the film take a lot of creative licensing in creating a story that is entertaining. Many factual events are thrown into the timeline of the movie, but I have my doubts on certain events in the film. However, I guess there is a difference between a documentary and entertainment for the masses -- and the movie is entertaining.

Like all of the other films reviewed here, this is about the film, not about the real-life people after which the film was created.

In this film, we see several computer security references:

• To begin with, social engineering is used to recruit people in spy games. Several books on con games highlight certain behaviors, beliefs, and priorities as risk for being manipulated. We see David's and Karl's interest in the Illuminati and the number 23 and 5 as being used to influence them. Their belief in what they referred to as "hacker ethics" also was used used to influence them. Like any religion, people's belief systems can be used to control them.
  If you can control a person who has access to something, then you can control access to that same thing.
• By the same system, their addiction and interest in cocaine and a single supplier permitted even greater control over Karl and David. Their supplier could offer cocaine and permit creation of debt from Karl and David to Pepe and Lupo.
• We see the physical security of a nuclear power plant is very good in the beginning of the film. Riot police, high pressure water, and uniformed guards provide a physical presence. Direct physical attack of systems unlikely to succeed, and we see this appears true in the film.
• We see social pressures among Karl's peers for Karl to not interact with journalist and give away "secrets" on gaining access to systems. (Artificial market creates higher prices/offers when demand exceeds supply.)
• We see what we are to believe is Karl breaking into the Post Office BTX.
• Looking at my copy from Europe, I have greater clarity for on-screen typing and was able to make this splash screen for the University of Bremen Technical Library out at 00:28:47

                 WILKOMMEN
  
  +======== UNIVERSITAET BREMEN ========+
  +                                     +
  +======= technische Bibliothek =======+
  +=====================================+
      WIN=net muth.uni-bremen.tech-b0
  
              45050176234
  
  
  Login Name:  anonymous guest
  Password:
  

• Then another at 00:29:02
  (By the way, at the date of the writing of this page, there was no rDNS available for the IP address listed below. However, a whois shows the range is indeed owned by a .mil. :-)

  Connecting to 26.1.2.22
  WELCOME TO THE AIR FORCE SYSTEM COMMAND-
  SPACE DIVISION VAX/VMS4.4
  
  Username: Bin
  Password: **********
  
  
  WELCOME TO THE US NAVY BASE SYSTEM COMMAND
  KO-FLORIDA VAX/VMS4.4
                     V
                    VVV
                   VVVVV
                  VVVVVVV
            VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
              VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
                VVVVVVVVVVV
               VVVVV   VVVVV
              VVVV       VVVV
             VV             VV
  
  IMPORTANT NOTICE
  COMPUTER SYSTEM PROBLEMS SHOULD BE DIR
  

• Another screen shot 00:37: (This one looks fishy to me. VMS and UNIX? Sure there is uucp available, but I think someone has a sense of humor with usernames for a VAX/VMS system.)
  (Though what we see scrolls longer than this, it is just a loop of what is seen here from head to tail.)
  (We see this on screens in most places in the film where we see white text scrolling up continuously on the screen over a blue background.)
  (Also check out "Tuborg"; Beer anyone? (heh-heh).)

  ########451         DGMEX     45CGd09
                      DETEM     8V900EF
  #########610        account   dgital
  ##########63        VAX       Ingrid
  #########993        SYSTEM    MANAGER
  #########343        VISITOR   VISITOR
                      VISITOR   TUBORG
  ########4093        ANONYMOUS GUEST
                      VAXC
  #########144        DEC       DIGITAL0
                      BTX|MF    BTX05w
                      VAXSYS    VAXT11
  ##########52        manager   00000
  ##########27        Guest     Guest
  ##########21        Guest     Juliane
                      Field     Service
                      visitor
  ##########92        Unix      Unix
                      Uucp      Uucp
  ##########10        Help      Help
  ##########13        root      root
  #########333        ftp       ftp
                      admin     admin
  ########1204        shell     nowok
  #########451        test      test
  

• Weak passwords were mentioned as being easily guessable. Two are referenced in the film by Karl: "password" and others used their wife's or pet's/child''s name.
• A "high level" of cryptography in language is used. When they wish to refer to "East Berlin" they are asked to say "Paris" instead. This obfuscation is meant to avoid piquing people's interest in their activities. It is also an amusing fact when we see Karl and David reviewing "Illuminati" docs on how they called different cities different names, and some called themselves different names too. An attempt made by the movie creator to show similarities between what Karl and David do with their pseudonyms and how they refer to Berlin.
• At another scene (00:37:45) we see the program created by David (Goliath) to run on the Atari. With 3 and 4x zoom on the best DVD, I was not able to read the list, but I can tell you the list of commonly used passwords was comprised almost entirely of names.
• At another scene (00:37:55) we see a clearer list of named pass by the screen. These are being used as commonly used passwords on the Atari just before the program dies.
• An early program that tries commonly used passwords against usernames is displayed. (In the film, "Open Sesame") which is similar is function to our present day crack/cracklib. Of course the implementations are different, but similar results are obtained. In the program they depict on the screen, a password is tried, and when it fails, a new password is tried. Through an iterative process, they can see if users on the system use common passwords. Once they have a common password, then they can gain access to the system and possibly elevate their privs. (Dictionary attack.)
• Though we do not find a direct mention of it, the purchase of the PDP-11 appears to have lead them to gain access to documentation. Later, when David and Karl are "hacking into Jülich nuclear power plant" they are asked where they got their password. They reply, "trade secret." It appears that this password may have been acquired from the docs with the PDP-11 and the nuclear power plant that previously housed the PDP-11 was actually Jülich. This is just a guess though.
• Karl describes a "false front door" that appears to be a useful login, but in reality records their passwords and then passes their next connection attempt to the real login screen. He calls this program "Trojanisches Pferd" (Trojan Horse) in the film. (I wonder when the name "Trojan Horse" was first applied to computers to mean a program that appears useful but actually helps to defeat the system.... According to developer.syndetic.org it was, "coined by MIT-hacker-turned-NSA-spook Dan Edwards.") We see such things still in use today. Common modern examples include the false front to accept cards on some ATM. the false front stores card mag stripe data and PIN entered for later retrieval.
• At around 00:48:43, we hear David raise complaint when he realizes that there is an impression that the hacking attempt for the nuclear power plant will include raising or lowering the rods. Either David realizes that such a system would not be connected to a dialup-to-networked system, or he does not want to be associated with such an attack. (I suspect we are to believe that it is not a system connected to the dialup-to-networked system computer. If true, then David's decision to leave may have been one based on reputation and ethics.) This illustrates a layered security approach. Just having access to use dialup to get to the system is not enough to gain control of the plant.
• At 00:52:33 he has coded his "Trojan Horse" and here is his program:

  echo-n "WELCOME TO MILNET-GW.ARMY.MIL UN
  IX 4 COMPUTER"
  echo-n "Please Login"
  echo-n "Login"
  echo-n "Enter Password
  (stty-echo;/
  read password
  stty-echo;/
  echo"";/
  echo$account_name$password>> /tmp/.pub)
  echo"Sorry, try again."
  
  save"Trojanisches Pferd"
  

• I cannot be certain, but I think the printout where they look to see a password that was grabbed with the Trojan horse, is just a printout of the same looping data above that is on the screens of the computers when you see white text scrolling on a blue background.
• At around 00:53:08 we see white text scrolling by a blue background. This text is not the same text that was seen scrolling earlier in the movie. The text looks like code, but I cannot make out words or letters, just character patterns.
• When all four think Karl's living space is bugged, they head out to an open field to talk. (countermeasures.)
• When Karl and David are in the hotel using the "portable computer" with the amber monochrome screen, we have another screenshot:
  (In this session, it seems they are visiting the systems they have trojaned and gathering the saved password by using a backdoor in the Trojan.)
  I make the best guesses I can for the passwords that are on the screen.

  telnet ????-???-???.ARMY.MIL
  Trying...
  Connected to ????-???-??.ARMY.MIL
  
  4.2 BSD UNIX
  Welcome to El Segundo Air Force Base
  
  Login: show me s???dclst
  Password:
  
  
  Passwords recorded:
  HighMass1.2
  65238etsh/39
  
  HighFlyer
  6523?esah/1.
  
  HighStaffel.sp
  6523??etah/11
  

• Another screen session (01:09:23)where we see what looks like line noise:

  ?8.2 How to link into the Sdinet 25 pages
  ?9.1 x.25 and x.75 connection to Sdinet (including Japanese, Eu-
       ropean, and Hawaii nodes) 8 pages,
  ?5.2 Sdinet management plan for next year 47 pages, November 1985
  ?2.7 Unclassified Sdinet membership list (includes major milnet ?
  (Begin unprintable characters and garbage on screen here)
  

• Another screenshot at around 01:09:52 (Phone booth scene)

        Theater Nuclear Force Structure Developments
  *******************************************************
                           ATTENTION:
   This file is classified secret, authorized use only
  *******************************************************
  

• Also 01:10:19

  Kursk  /  2 blocks  /  2000 MW  /  # 6F4-71937256-141
  Balachova  /  1 block  /  1000 MW  /  # 6F4-89981039-93?
  Nikolayev  /  2 blocks  /  2000 MW  /  # 6F4-6790825-03?
  Rovno  /  2 blocks  /  840 MW  /  # 6F4-17410810-041
  Minsk  /  2 blocks  /  2000 MW  /  # 6F4-14939231-887
  Byeloyarsk 1  /  1 block  /  100 MW  /  # 6F4-00437714-???
  Bilibino  /  4 blocks  /  48 MW  /  # 6F4-72638238-624
  Shevtshenko  /  1 block  /  150 MW  /  # 6F4-71049184-9??
  Byeloyarsk 2  /  1 block  / 200 MW  /  # 6F4-00438515-???
  BN 600  /  1 block  /  600 MW  /  # 6F4-90817498-271
  WWER-3  /  2 blocks  /  840 MW  /  # 6F4-529-46283-026
  Murmansk  /  4 blocks  /  1680 MW  / # 6F4-180508073-7??
  Oktemberyan  /  2 blocks  /  815 MW  /  # 6F4-18602298-??
  Kursk  /  7 blocks  / 7000 MW  /  # 6F4-53521957-164
  Leningrad  /  4 blocks  /  4000 MW  /  # 6F4-7309884-12?
  WWER-4  /  1 block  /  1000 MW  /  # 6F4-97908034-179
  Smolensk  /  2 blocks  /  2000 MW  /  # 6F4-71539373-5??
  

Movie Trivia

• Karl's nick online is Hagbard Celine (from protagonist of Illuminatum.)
• Karl names his computer "FUCK UP" (from computer onboard Hagbard' s sub which was named from "First Universal Cybernetic Kinetic Ultra-micro Programable."
• Karl's computer (FUCK UP) is a commodore. (Though it does not look like the VIC20 or the Commodore 64 from what I recall.)
  • Provided By Ulrich (Other information about this user kept private by request):
    This is a Commodore SX64 - the portable version of the 64 with a extra Keyboard, Color-Monitor and 1 or 2 internal Floppy Disk Drives. It is rather rare, because it was very expensive and the built in color monitor was not really good...
• At the computer fair, we see Commodore 64, and other machines as well.
• "What is a hacker" according to Karl, "A hacker find holes in computer systems' or mainframes' security."
• "What is the hacker ethic" according to Karl, "Knowledge is power. Information means wealth. Information should be free."
• The program that David (Goliath) writes to guess commonly used passwords is "Sesam öffne dich (c) by Goliath" (Open Sesame (C) by Goliath).
• When in the hotel room, Karl thinks their connection is being traced, when in reality, it just looks like there is line noise or there is a terminal emulation problems or an auto-bauding/speed problem. (see below)
  • Provided By Ulrich (Other information about this user kept private by request):
    Without error correction a traced line looks the same as a bad noisy line. If a line is clamped for tracing you get a lot of errors in that moment. If they do a mistake by clamping even the connection could get lost. If you have Modem with ECC and you are being traced, you will only see that the ECC is working and the connections slows down - exactly the same what happens if you get noise on the line.
• When there is focus on the picture in the office of the employee for State Security, we see 3 tennis players on the court having their picture taken. One is the employee of State Security (far left) the middle person is the person who works at the network who smokes the cigarettes in the "23" package, and the third fellow is ???? (let me know.)

A number of associates and I have been working on English subtitles for "23 Nichts ist so wie es Scheint" ("23 Nothing is as it Seems") and would like to share these with others. We have a few hundred hours invested in building them, but want to hear suggestions on how to make them better.

We would like to ensure all changes and suggestions made to the subtitles are always available to everyone.

Here is a chronological list of users who have contributed to making these subtitles better and the country they wish to claim as their point of origin. These people are cited at the end of the subtitles: (AnonUser's are not nicknames. They are users who wish to stay anonymous. "n/a" mean "not available" which means they do not want this item published. "(?)" Means best guess based on available information.)
Translation Credits and Citations

NName	Country	Name	E-Mail	URL
(?) psicotreta (?) Uploader of Portuguese subtitles at http://extratitles.to/	n/a	n/a	(?) thedoc@rtlworld.de (?)	1029009593-24-23_pt.zip
CotMan	us	n/a	sub23@passwall.com	Thanks BabelFish!
BoomBox	dk	n/a	n/a	n/a
^-=*V*=-^	kz	n/a	n/a	n/a
AnonUser1	de	n/a	n/a	n/a
AnonUser2	us	n/a	n/a	n/a
z0idb3rg	qc.ca	Albert Bachand	wawazuzu at sympatico dot ca	n/a
SilentRob	us	n/a	n/a	n/a
phobal	ca	n/a	n/a	place-holder/citation
n/a	us	Christopher Hesse	n/a	n/a

Downloadable subtitles:
The subtitles available for download are the work of many people working in cooperation. If you would like to contribute to improving the subtitles, you should know the goals we would like to meet:

1. Subtitles should convey the same sense as the spoken German. (Translated intent is better than a direct translation.)
2. German spoken about technology in the film should be technologically accurate in English. (Consider the crowd of people who will review this film.)
3. Spoken vulgar German words should be closely paired with closest matching written vulgar English words.
4. When it does not interfere with any of the above, include comments for people who are hearing impaired. (We think we have included sufficient comments for the hearing impaired to have them understand many of the events in the film and events that require hearing events, but maybe we missed some. Let us know if you have more suggestions.)
5. A majority of subtitles should be a max of 1 row, occasionally 2 rows, but should almost never use 3 rows of text on-screen with standard mplayer or MS Media Player default fonts.
6. All contributors with included contributions receive equal "credit time" in the subtitle credits regardless of size of contribution.
7. The order of credit is based on chronological submission; earliest workers appear first.
8. Any names with vertical bar (UNIX pipe "|") will need to choose an alternate character for the credits since that is an EOL terminator in the subtitles format used. (I do not know of any escape characters for "|" in subtitles either.)
9. Contributors must have a valid e-mail address! I don't care if it is hotmail or yahoomail or you want to hide your identity with another method, but I need to be able to reply to you! (Which goes to the next item as why I would need to contact you.)
10. Contributions will not be included unless contributor responds to reply to their submission agreeing to terms. (Terms like: agree to have their contributions "OpenSourced" under a, "to be determined OpenSource license," like GPL, GNU, Creative Commons, or similar license to make sure anyone with a license to play the movie may freely download use and redistribute them to others who have license to play the movie.) We want to make sure submissions are available to everyone and anyone who wants them so long as we do not break the law. We also need confirmation on what name to credit and if your e-mail address may be published on this page. All submissions must be extended to the owners and creators of the film to use as they wish for profit or not.
11. Get the latest subtitles files and use them before you make suggestions. Maybe someone else beat you to the suggestion and is credited. If you indeed have the latest subtitles files, feel free to send me unified diff instead of complete subtitles files. If you don't know what this means, then just send me the whole subtitle file you have changed.

NOTE: If you try to use these subtitles with an other file/version, then you will likely need to adjust the frame index for the subtitle file to match the frame count of your file.

The latest release of subtitles is version 1.0.5 (Released Feb 26, 2006). This version includes fixes for 1 punctuation/spelling error, 1 spelling error, and 1 suggested change in wording in a difficult phrase. This release also includes a new subtitles file to work with an original DVD imported from Europe when played with something like mplayer or xine.

Yes, we provide a subtitle file for this film. No, I will not provide anyone an AVI or video-format of this film. It is up to you to locate the Video if you wish to play it. If you have a license to play the film, consider any of a various P2P-based network acquisition systems. I have seen a number of people using these to get this film. Subtitles for this film are provided for people with license to use the film. (I want to ensure my part in publishing them remains legal.)

Even though I won't provide the video file, I do provide the subtitles file only because I believe it is legal for people who own the film to download subtitles for another language for the same film they own. These subtitles are not ripped from the DVD published in Europe nor are they taken from the DVD-R from the "revengeismydestiny" website. The subtitles are a collaborative effort from many different people. These subtitles are also useless without a copy of the movie. Use of these subtitles separate from the movie may lead to issues of Copyright with respect to the creators of the film. As a result, if you choose to create derivative works or use these subtitles without a license to play the film, you may need to contact the creators of the film for permission to use their "script" for your purpose outside the film.

If they ever release a Region-1 DVD of this film with English subtitles, whatever distribution company chooses to do so may use these subtitles. (And when such a region-1 DVD is produced, I'll plan to buy that one too!) With these subtitles, it is possible for english speaking people who are hearing impaired to understand this movie. This permits U.S. universities accepting dollars from the U.S. government to play this film and meet many of the requirements specified by the U.S. ADA. If you own the movie, feel free to download. If you do not own it, consider buying a legal copy; the European DVD (Is a Region 2 DVD and needs a special player outside of Europe) is of much higher quality WRT sound and video than any ripped version, and you encourage the film industry to make more films like this one and (hopefully) fewer films that are less accurate.

Our English Subtitles: DOWNLOAD File 23_-_Nichts_Ist_So_Wie_Es_Scheint_Dvd_Divx_German-English_sub.zip (English Subtitles) made for the file of length 680941568 bytes with md5sum d49426dfc1cdffa70cbdc67fde981bf1 and frame count of 141847.

Complete list of various subtitle versions we provide for download: (I'll probably shift over to smi-based subtitles as they have more features and can be used regardless of frame count.)

Alternate frame shift for subtitles provided by "Albert Bachand" (z0idb3rg)-qc.ca

Alternate File #1	23-Nichts.ist.so.wie.es.scheint.avi
Size bytes/kB/MB (k=1024,M=1024k)	701765632/685318kB/669MB
MD5Sum	43f78d6837cddff2b675b90db8c159af
# Frames	142017
Subtitle File:	DOWNLOAD English Subtitles File for this version AVI

Alternate frame shift for subtitles provided by "Christopher Hesse" ()-.US

Alternate File #2	DVD : German Import : Barcode 4 009750 296189
DVD Released by	http://www.eurovideo.de/ (23 Nichts ist so wie es Scheint) or Google Search for BN
Length/Format/Region	ca. 95 Minutes / PAL / Europe
# Frames	142026 (guessed)
Subtitle File:	DOWNLOAD English Subtitles File for a DVD

How do you make the subtitle files work with your video player? (Plans to expand this section later)

• With mplayer, check out the "-sub" option:

  $ mplayer -sub subtitle.file.sub movie.to.play.avi
  

• With Windows Media Player, it requires extra software in Windows 2000 (choose one):
  • http://www.ateodor.home.ro/#mp One method that I have not tried.
  • http://www.divx-digest.com/software/vobsub.html

This has been the most difficult film to find with any kind of subtitles. (My spoken and written German is just plain awful; it takes me several passes when hearing something to figure out what is being said.) I Found this movie available from several sites in Europe. I found one that claimed to have English subtitles, but recently checked and found that description of their sold item has been removed.

If you decide to buy a DVD from Europe to play in the U.S., then know these items:

• Most DVD from the U.S. and Canada are encoded in region 1.
• Most DVD Players bought in the U.S. can only play Region 1 and Region 0 DVD.
• The television standard and format for Video in the U.S. is NTSC.
• Most TV, VCR, and DVD Players purchased in the US can only use NTSC.
• Most DVD from Europe are encoded in region 2.
• Most DVD Players bought in Europe can only play Region 2 and Region 0 DVD.
• Most TV, VCR, and DVD Players purchased in Europe can only use PAL which is their video standard instead of NTSC.

So, make sure your DVD Player can play DVD from the region you are buying and make sure you can play movies in the format (NTSC and/or PAL) that your TV can handle!

(Example, I bought a DVD player that can play all regions (manually region selectable) and can convert PAL video to NTSC so I can play them on a regular ordinary U.S. TV.)

There is a reference to a Divx version with English as a language mentioned at http://www.wa-junge.de/movies/details/2663.html but later it states there are no subtitles on the disc ("Keine Untertitel"). I have sent the site owner to verify this and am awaiting a response. Perhaps "English" is the language for the text in that section of the page.

There are also Portuguese subtitles http://extratitles.to/searchs.php?z3=23. This was a useful resource as another "take" on what was being said on film, but in another language.

After more searching, I found a U.S. based company that sells it in VHS format in NTSC format and English subtitles. Check out http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/EuroTrashT.html and scroll down the page till you see it. The subtitles in that film are okay, but not what I would have chosen for subtitles. Many technological references were missing as was reference to the Chaos Computer Club. Several other omissions made the subtitles as part of that film less than ideal. There are a number of omissions that really alter the story. There are some cases where omission of translated spoken German to English leads to a different impression of the characters portrayed in the film. I believe our subtitles are technologically more accurate, and more consistent with the story. We also take the time to include comments for the hearing impaired and translate signs or other text that appears in the film. We also translate spoken Russian in the film.

When I e-mailed the guy that runs the site, I asked him about the movie and asked if he had it in DVD format. Though http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/EuroTrashT.html does (did) not show a DVD version as being available, he was willing to make a DVD-R! (NOTE: this is not the same as a conventional DVD, but most newer DVD players made today can usually play DVD-R too.)

I was a little concerned about sending money to a guy who runs a website with part of the name including "Revenge is my Destiny" (http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/) but I decided to check it out. I searched USENET archives, and use google to search the web for references and reviews for the site, but could not find customer reviews that were positive or negative. I found an article that was from 2002 that wrote about his site, and after examining the whois information and finding it was created around the same time and not being able to find any negative reports, and noting it was not much money for the movie, I was willing to take the risk.

The website says that you should wait from 6-8 weeks for delivery. Through e-mail, he said he could get it out to me in 3-4 weeks. The package actually arrived in a little less than 3 weeks. Based on my experience with his company, if I find I would like to have other titles from his collection, I will not hesitate to order from him again. (Great service, I received exactly what he told me I would receive in the timeline he said I would receive it.)

Since my original order, I have ordered more copies of this film from the same site, and will be ordering more coppies from Europe to give to some people I know as gifts. I'll post my experience with these orders too:

I ordered another package from this guy, but this was a larger order. It took about 10 weeks, but it was a larger order, and if you check on his site, larger orders take longer.) For reference, I ordered 7 DVD-R in February, and they all arived just fine. They were exactly as advertised. This is two orders placed, for a total of 8 items, and all arrived just fine. I would still do business with this guy in the future.

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